Jul 19, 2007

BJJ vs. Karate. A Video most have seen before. But with Analysis + "How to Actually Avoid the Takedown" Basics.

Here is one of the first videos of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu I've ever saw-
It's a BJJ grappler against a Shotokan Karate practitioner

Okay, so that just looked painful, right? But, that's actually how most fights between a Grappler and a Traditional Martial Artist (without any groundwork experience) go. Evade, clinch, takedown, take mount, beat/armbar/choke into submission. Now, as for the TMAs that have noticed this, many have begun to teach "anti/counter-grappling." I'll go into why that's retarded, and I'll explain real takedown counters later in this post.

But first, a frame-by-frame analysis of what exactly happened.

:18 - Shotokan guy tries to step in for a properly executed karate punch. Kudos to the guy for not doing what most people do and turn his "art" into bad brawling immediately. BJJ guy sees the setup pretty easily, and goes in for the clinch.

:19 - BJJ guy performs a double leg takedown. Lands in Side Control.

:20 - Shotokan guy gets pinned to the wall from takedown, and tries to free himself from his position by swinging at the BJJ guy's ribs. (Notice- he fails to see gullotine opportunity) BJJ guy isn't hurt by punches due to lack of grounding needed to put power into strikes (People still don't know this fact.), and...

:30 - Positions for Mount, and gets it.

:34 - BJJ guy goes for GNP (Ground and Pound), but Shotokan guy sticks his hands up to prevent it. (Now, while that may have prevented a beatdown, it is a HUGE mistake, because...)

:45 - Seeing how Shotokan guy is giving him his arms, BJJ guy goes for the easy armbar.

:54 - Looks like Shotokan guy's arm is pretty messed up. Ouch.

Anyway, the FAQ:
1) Is BJJ necessary for learning how to grapple?
A: No, but it is definitely the best taught style of grappling. And, you can combine it with your stand-up style.

2) I could have taken him out with my punch/elbow/knee/kick/eye gouge, right?
A: No, you couldn't have. a) Take a physics class. b) Realize that none of those techniques will work reliably without (first stopping the takedown/fighting a terrible grappler), which I will explain. Not to mention the fact that most feint before going in for a takedown these days.

3) Groundwork is unncessary, because I'll never be on the ground.
A: That's not even a question, and you should go to hell for being so stupid. No, don't believe all the statistics about "ALL FIGHTS GO TO THE GROUND!!!1!!#!!," but still realize that the probability of being taken down when fighting someone not of your own style is still pretty high.

Now, for the Juicy Part: "How to Actually Avoid the Takedown -101"
Well, first, what avoiding the takedown should NOT look like:

So, you've watched a few MMA videos/looked at psfights.com like I told you to (http://punchkickchoke.blogspot.com/2007/07/pure-street-fights-collection-of-most.html)
and now, you're afraid of the TMA Boogey Monster named the "Double Leg Takedown."
Well, you probably should be, but I'm more than willing to show you in the right direction (rather than telling you to go fuck off and join a submission grappling school of some kind) to abate some of your fears. Now, be warned- these aren't 100% reliable, and they definitely need drilling.

Notice I don't say "pull hair/gouge eyes/ninja tactic"- It's not that those things aren't effective, it's just that execution of these techniques as takedown defense is almost impossible without first stopping the takedown itself. I'd love to explain why in terms of biomechanics, but you should find out for yourself. Go pick a fight with an experienced Grappler/MMA fighter.

1) Against a bad shoot, the angle off + forearm block/"Half Spear" (ala Tony Blauer) works well.
Why? Because, when a guy goes in for a takedown, but doesn't execute it fast/low enough, it gives you just enough time to do what I call a "Holy shit, I need to do something" move. Take a step toward the side your lead leg is, lean forward (with rear foot/shoulder), and drive your rear forearm (bent slightly out) into the guy's neck, while at the same time, trying to scoop the guy's arm off your lead leg with your lead hand. Make sure, at the last moment, push as hard as you can into the guy's neck. Follow with whatever you like. You've just bought yourself a second to attack/run.

All that might seem a bit hard to envision, but I'll make a video sometime.

2) Sprawl, you SOB.
Against a good takedown attempt, your best shot is a sprawl.
Here, Ken Shamrock shows you how to execute one.

You say, "Oh, that looks easy." No, it really isn't. You need a partner who can perform a decent takedown, and you need to practice, practice, practice.

Look at Chuck Liddell's sprawl in my previous post:

Now, those two things were about how to avoid being taken down. What if it's inevitable?

3) The Guillotine is your friend.
Granted, it's easily countered, but it's probably the easiest and most effective offensive tool you have while defending the takedown.

Well, I'm exhausted from writing all of that--

I'll get into the Single Leg Takedown next time.
Hope you enjoyed this long-ass post.


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